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Kaspersky OS
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:13 pm
by Shawn
Re: Kaspersky OS
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:19 am
by Karl Klammer
in science there is a catchphrase "peer review or it didn't happen".
in infosec, there should be a catchphrase "code review or it ain't secure"
=> go for something 100% open source, with a good track record, like
Qubes or
Openbsd
=> if you want something minimalistic without apps, like KSS, then go for
Genode with
seL4 kernel
=> if you want something EAL6-certified to cover your ass in case of breach,
Integrity-178B seems to be the only contender... but I cannot give any details on Integrity-178B due to having no clue myself ;-)
--verbose?
http://www.toughbooktalk.com/viewtopic. ... 9&start=10
Re: Kaspersky OS
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:45 am
by toughasnails
It does sound interesting but what's the price ??
Re: Kaspersky OS
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:03 am
by Shawn
No idea on price yet.
Re: Kaspersky OS
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:31 am
by Karl Klammer
it's a MILS architecture, just like qubes. uses some inhouse microkernel. nothing fancy like sel4, as far as i can tell
https://os.kaspersky.com/wp-content/upl ... on_eng.pdf
it's not intended to be an OS to download/install on your system.
It's more like a codebase that will be tailored to your stuff, if you are like an OEM and buy a shitload of licenses.
Only thing we know, is that kraftway pays less than 3k usd per license. probably less than 1.5k usd.
here is a screencast of kaspersky os
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyoarEvzCVw
price info according to
http://tickticknews.com/kaspersky-lab-a ... persky-os/
KasperskyOS is available for OEMs, ODMs, systems integrators and software developers around the world. Successful projects have already been conducted with Russia’s system integrator Kraftway (secure network router), SYSGO (strengthened security for PikeOS real-time operating system with Kaspersky Security System) and European systems integrator BE.services (embedding KasperskyOS technology in specialized Programmable Logic Controllers).
As a unique project, that is tailored for every customer, the pricing of KasperskyOS varies depending on requirements. More information about KasperskyOS,
price info according to
http://www.fonow.com/view/185608.html
In terms of price, Kaspersky OS does not have a fixed price, the specific price will be depending on the user system requirements of the degree of change.
At present, the media broke the news that network equipment manufacturers Kraftway has become a Kaspersky OS partners, and launched
a set of 1000 equipped with this operating system routers, each priced at up to 3028 US dollars
Re: Kaspersky OS
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:16 pm
by Shawn
Would be an interesting starting point to build upon.
Re: Kaspersky OS
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:22 pm
by Karl Klammer
not really, we have genode+sel4 in this universe.
free, open and mathematically proven vs some secret sauce from a crazy russian tech billionaire
not even the same ballpark
i'm not even sure I would call it interesting when compared to other secret sauce commercial mils microkernel stuff ... like genua vs-top/cyber-top
Re: Kaspersky OS
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:38 pm
by Shawn
I don't know..Crazy Russian tech ..already has me interested...Ha Ha ha.
Seriously though, I'm not so sure open source is the best route...
Things get too watered down and too branched out.
Of course I am weird enough to want OSX on my Toughbooks.
Re: Kaspersky OS
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:26 pm
by Karl Klammer
You can defeat Kaspersky's ATM antivirus with a really fat executable
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/1 ... rity_vuln/
that, I find interesting ;-)
.. especially in the branched out and watered down context ;-)
scnr