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resistors

#1 Post by Mxx20 »

So I've aquired an old airco heliarc welder, by the date xode ita a '78. I've had to do some cleaning and tune up as the guy i got it from said the ac didn't weld aluminum up to par and looked horrible. Found out it was just an adjustment and years of corrosion, but in the mix i pulled apart the foot pedal for the tig and cleaned and repainting it, the resistor has some sort of coating on 3 sides. Feels like ceramic but i am unsure. I've just read alot about the widings coming off and having to replace it, I'd rather not while i have it apart, maybe i can find a coating to re coat? I've searched and havent found much on it other than replacing the resistor.


Any ideas or suggestions?



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Re: resistors

#2 Post by SHEEPMAN! »

I have a Lincoln Pipeliner circa late 1940's.

Lincoln Electric had new parts for it 10 years ago. Cleveland, OH. "Bill's Welding Equipment"

Different company/brand of course but this is FWIW.
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Re: resistors

#3 Post by CWB »

hmmm ...

that resistor will be ok if none of the windings are loosening up .
they should be in shallow grooves , perhaps only on the corners .
you could clean up the connections of the wiper bar ... clean up the pivot point ... use some silicone grease (think heatsink compound) or *noseize* (aluminum powder in grease) .
the actual brush and holder should be cleaned out/up and inspected for *free travel* as the brush is spring loaded to maintain firm contact with the nichrome windings .
the actual purpose of the resistor should be to control the feed speed of the wire/spool ...
sooo ... the feed may be a little erratic if this resistor is not clean where the brush rides and the brush itself is not mechanically correct .
(this is barring other considerations of the feed path)

the brush can be replaced if need be ...
an electrical supply or motor/generator rewinding outfit should carry a brush that is close in size and composition (hardness and copper metal dust "lube" count) .
get one that is oversize and use a mill bastard file to take it down to the correct dimensions .

the low temp (relatively speaking) ceramic material peeling off/away is a common occurrence with those "sandy" resistors ... and has been since the 30s .
there are better quality resistors ... they use a ceramic material but it is of the "high fire" type and actually bonds to the ceramic form and of course , it costs more to produce .

with a machine that was made 4 years after i graduated , all connections are suspect .
if something needs to be soldered ... do not use acid core solder .
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Re: resistors

#4 Post by Mxx20 »

So, i redid all the connections, soldered and heat shrank them. Set the contacts, ran the water to it and no gas flow. Well they had the diaphram set wrong, Basically the thrid thing ive found wrong or set wrong on this. The guy i got this from had absolutely no clue lol. Welds great now

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Re: resistors

#5 Post by CWB »

"ran the water to it ..."
how about that ... a fluid drive welder .
:P
CF-30 mkI/TS/dvd/custom gps/wwan/wlan/BT/emmsive kb ---- CF-52 mkII/custom TS/dvd/wlan/BT/emmisive kb
CF-19 mkIV/TS/dvd/gps/wwam/wlan/BT/emissive kb/SSD ---- CF-31 mkI/TS/dvd/custom gps/wwan/wlan/emissive kb/SSD
CF-74 dvd/wlan/BT ---- CF-52 mkIII/ATI graphics card/i5-2.53GHz/wlan/BT/SSD (wwan/custom gps/TS coming soon)

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Re: resistors

#6 Post by Shawn »

Works great to weld ice sculptures.

The water replaces the "juice" used in old style welders. :D
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Re: resistors

#7 Post by CWB »

gives new meaning to the term "spray welding" .
CF-30 mkI/TS/dvd/custom gps/wwan/wlan/BT/emmsive kb ---- CF-52 mkII/custom TS/dvd/wlan/BT/emmisive kb
CF-19 mkIV/TS/dvd/gps/wwam/wlan/BT/emissive kb/SSD ---- CF-31 mkI/TS/dvd/custom gps/wwan/wlan/emissive kb/SSD
CF-74 dvd/wlan/BT ---- CF-52 mkIII/ATI graphics card/i5-2.53GHz/wlan/BT/SSD (wwan/custom gps/TS coming soon)

"Know how to solve every problem that has been solved"
(R. Feynman '88)
"yessir , that boy has a couple of shorted turns on the primary"
"i've been to three county fairs , two hog calls and a goat ropin' but i aint never seen nothin' like this"

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Re: resistors

#8 Post by Mxx20 »

Lol, i deserved that one, i dont have a water pump/tank/cooler for the tig so im cheating running the garden hose over :P :pat:


Trying to find onr or see if one of the coke or pepsi guys i know can spare a carbonator pump, same proton the miller uses

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Re: resistors

#9 Post by CWB »

that is a good source for a water pump .
you might be able to get one that needs to be rebuilt and then order up a kit for it .
to regulate the flow , restrict the inlet side .
are you going to run it as a closed or open system ?
a cooler can be made with an old heater core and a small fan .
a glycol solution with a small amount of disinfectant (the same stuff that keeps the grunge from growing in diesel tanks) will transfer heat better .
CF-30 mkI/TS/dvd/custom gps/wwan/wlan/BT/emmsive kb ---- CF-52 mkII/custom TS/dvd/wlan/BT/emmisive kb
CF-19 mkIV/TS/dvd/gps/wwam/wlan/BT/emissive kb/SSD ---- CF-31 mkI/TS/dvd/custom gps/wwan/wlan/emissive kb/SSD
CF-74 dvd/wlan/BT ---- CF-52 mkIII/ATI graphics card/i5-2.53GHz/wlan/BT/SSD (wwan/custom gps/TS coming soon)

"Know how to solve every problem that has been solved"
(R. Feynman '88)
"yessir , that boy has a couple of shorted turns on the primary"
"i've been to three county fairs , two hog calls and a goat ropin' but i aint never seen nothin' like this"

Mxx20
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Re: resistors

#10 Post by Mxx20 »

Im undecided, i was going to maybe use an evap core. Ive got several kicking around at work, for a fan i was thinking maybe just using the one on thr unit itself, it runs all the time and flows a ton of air

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