accumulated operating hours question

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accumulated operating hours question

#1 Post by Driller »

In the bios on the core duo models it gives the total hours of operating time. I've never removed the CMOS battery to see if it would reset the hours in the bios upon booting or never had the desire to do so. In some of the CF-29 units that were bios password protected this allowed me to bypass this issue and I don't recall if the hours issue was reset. In the cf-51 core duos that I upgraded to core 2 duo's I was wondering if the CMOS battery was removed and allowed to sit for a while would it reset this hours operational time figure, say reset it to 0? Why do I ask? cause I've purchased some CF-51's with extremely low hours on the clock with the KB and screen and all looking completely untouched but with some wear on the outside. Any ideas on this? fill me in.................Driller

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Trying to do some shady business eh??? lol j/k j/k.

AFAIK there is absolutely NO WAY to reset it...
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well then, I've just been lucky on purchasing some CF-51's with extremely low hours on them as well as the CF-29's. I've bought quite a few toughbooks and have yet to sell the first one and really don't care to sell them as I tinker, swap parts, repair and in general try to learn as much as I can to upgrade or mod them to see what ways to extend the useful life of them. I've been impressed with the craftsmanship of the toughbook line. Have even converted some of my desktop and other laptop friends to the TB. Oh yes, blackops runs in the family, but no, I haven't run the clock back on anything............Driller 8)

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I've converted ALL my friends/family:

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Employee Clay: CF-30 touch - is using it in the Army as his personal machine - loves it
Employee Ryan: CF-29 touch - never uses it but has to have it...
Friend Mike - CF-30 touch
Friend Claes - CF-30 mobo for carputer
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Re: accumulated operating hours question

#5 Post by toughasnails »

I have been wondering if you could reset the clock on the 51's because there is one seller on ebay that always has low hour 51's .......50-60 hours. I just figured he must know something we don't :rolleyes:

http://cgi.ebay.com/CF-51CentrinoDuo-W- ... 3a624607a0
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I got a couple from buybest13 and were a little scuffed on lcd back but inside didn't even looked like they'd been used at all. last one had 10 hours and got it for 44 bucks. no ram or caddy with hdd but had them already. will swap in T7600 soon and use it. Still am using the gutway with a T9300 cpu upgrade with the crucial 800FSB ram. Temps are much cooler and wondering if the program coretemp is accurately giving the temps cause the fan hardly comes on at all. trying to see if I can make the cf-51 perform up to the gutway level that made the jump from a 667 to a 800 FSB C2D cpu. Still think something can be done to the cf-51 to get this same result. The chipset is the answer. wonder if it can be upgraded with a hotair station chipset swap, i.e. 945 to a 965 gme and are they even compatible in a swap with the existing MB. Driller
dug up a damaged mk3 MB and looked it over. don't think I can do that. anyway, it was a thought.

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#7 Post by toughasnails »

Driller wrote:well then, I've just been lucky on purchasing some CF-51's with extremely low hours on them as well ............Driller 8)
The 51 I just got off ebay from "buybest15" had zero hours , the lid was marked up but the rest was spotless. I just installed the T7600 2.33 cpu in it and the inside of this thing is clean...you can tell its never been used.
Not sure who said this but if your computer was in standby or sleep it would not add to your operating hours . Well it does because I now have 10 hours on the 51 now. I just never looked into it before.
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#8 Post by rusty503 »

Hate to tell you guys. I figured this out quite some time ago and YES you can reset the hours fairly easily. When I discovered this, I decided NOT to put out the information because it would/will be used by neferious folks out there. Looks like someone else has figured it out. I did all this around the same time I figured out how to rewrite the model and serial numbers for our toughbooks.
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rusty503 wrote:I did all this around the same time I figured out how to rewrite the model and serial numbers for our toughbooks.
I KNEW that this was possible because I got some weird ass model number CF-19's that I KNOW aren't real model numbers + serial numbers starting with 3M for example... (not to mention 0 hours on machines which obviously are NOT 0 hours...)
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#10 Post by rusty503 »

Rob wrote:
rusty503 wrote:I did all this around the same time I figured out how to rewrite the model and serial numbers for our toughbooks.
I KNEW that this was possible because I got some weird ass model number CF-19's that I KNOW aren't real model numbers + serial numbers starting with 3M for example... (not to mention 0 hours on machines which obviously are NOT 0 hours...)
Very most likely because of dishonest people using the info I passed out prior for very unethical reasons. Exactly why I didn't pass out the info about changing the hours. I do know there are other ways available to check the hours via this program. I will do some further experimenting to see what I can come up with on the CF-51. I wish I had a CF-19 to play with. Maybe when I sell off 10 of my CF-29s sitting at home.
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12 CF-29's MK5, One CF-18 MK5, One CF-19 MK1, 4 CF-51's MK3, 7 CF-51 MK2, one CF-74 MK3, One CF-30 Mk 3 and one CF-52 MK2. Wait, is that all I have? MUST HAVE MORE!

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