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CF-51 Single Core Cpu Upgrade Q and A

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I have been asked to summarize some of the single core upgrade options for the CF-51 so here it is. If I missed anything just chime in.


There are three basic Mk's of the CF-51
There are also LL models of each Mk but the CPU chipset is the same per each model.

CF-51xxxxA/H/Qxx (Mk1) -- Intel® 855PM, 400 MHz FBS, DDR SDRAM, PC-2700
CF-51xxxxB/J/Rxx (Mk1LL) -- Intel® 855GM, 400 MHz FBS, DDR2 SDRAM, PC2-4200

CF-51xxxxC/K/xx (Mk2) -- Intel® 915PM, 533 MHz FBS, DDR2 SDRAM, PC2-4200
CF-51xxxxD/Lxx (Mk2LL) -- Intel® 915GM, 533 MHz FBS, DDR2 SDRAM, PC2-4200

CF-51xxxxE/Mxx (Mk3) -- Intel® 945PM, 667 MHz FBS, DDR2 SDRAM, PC2-4200
CF-51xxxxF/Nxx (Mk3LL) -- Intel® 945GM, 667 MHz FBS, DDR2 SDRAM, PC2-4200

In this thread we are going to focus on the Mk1 and Mk2 single core machines.

I upgraded a factory CF-51 Mk2LL 1.73 MHz Pentium M to 2.0. I have swapped out a lot of Pentium M's on other computers and haven't seen many different versions of the 2.0 Pentium M and they all worked. This family maxes out at 2.2. I have a 2.1 that I am going to try out in a CF-50 project. The 2.2's are 68 to 89 dollars usually. The 2.1's are around 30 to 40 ish and for 15 to 25 bucks you can pick up the 2.0. I haven't personally compared the 2.0,2.1 and 2.2 with a bench mark program but older reviews on line there isn't a big performance gain over the cheaper 2.0. Just search for the numbers below on eBay. You just want to search the CPU section for only 760,770 or 780 is what I usually do.

2.0 760

2.1 770

2.2 780


There is also a 2.1 765 model that is a lower FBS and lower wattage.

List of Intel Pentium M microprocessors - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_In ... 2890_nm.29
Dothan series is the one you want.

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Pictures added, "screen shot that has been edited from a wiki page, info may not be accurate but I haven't run into a problem with it yet"

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I AM ADDING THIS BECAUSE THE MK1 AND MK1LL ARE 400 FBS NOT 533 FBS, THIS IS AM BRING FROM ANOTHER POST I MADE IN ANOTHER THREAD AND I THINK IT WILL BE USEFUL TO THE GUIDE.

But one thing to remember is your model (MK1LL) is a 400 MHz FBS model. The model I was talking about is a 533 MHz FBS model(Mk2).

Lets take a look at yours Processor 725, 1.60 GHz400 MHz FBS
By looking at the chart provided on the wiki and below we see that the Mk1LL is

1.6 GHz 2 MB 400 MT/s 16× 0.988–1.34 V 21 W Socket 479

Your options look like the 725, 735, 745, 755 and 765 CPU's will work.

I am not sure if your motherboard will handle the 533 MHZ FBS speed. If it will it does open up more options for you, but if you ram is slower than 533 MHZ than your ram will be holding you back.

Also some of the older 400 MHZ machines has smaller heat sinks something to consider when upgrading CPU's.

There is a pinmod you can do to over clock the chips but that is only available on 915 Intel based motherboards. Your motherboard is a Intel 855GM chipset so I think you are stuck at 400 MHZ FBS (On the Mk1 and Mk1LL)

Faster ram will help with speed but only to what the max for your mother board is. It looks like 400mhz is the max. So if you put faster ram in it, it will work at a slower speed, but at the max the motherboard provides. So it will not allow you to run the 533 processors. (It may let you run them, but they will work at slower FBS speed so not getting any gains from them.)

If you decide to swap to a different toughbook you can reuse your caddy, battery and charger saving on price by getting a bare chassis. I would recommend if you like the CF-51 (cheapest option)

CF-51xxxxC/K/xx (Mk2)
CF-51xxxxE/Mxx (Mk3)
CF-51xxxxF/Nxx (Mk3LL)

Let's take a quick look at these models.

CF-51 Mk2
Single core 2.0 pentium M, max 2gb ram, 533MHZ FBS, ATI X300 graphics card 128 MB.

CF-52 Mk3
Dual core, core duo 2.0 32bit only, 4gb ram, ATI X1300 video card 256MB, (but have seen some on the bios page on ebay show only 128MB video memory) These can be upgraded to the core2duo making it 64 bit compatible and able to use all 4GB of the ram. ( I have one of these and still haven't upgraded the CPU and I think it still runs at a good speed compared to a lot of other dualcore's I have seen.)

CF-51 Mk3LL 1.66 core duo, 4gb ram, Intel integrated graphics. CPU can be upgraded like the above model, but the graphics are limited.

There is also another model that will work if you like this size toughbook but you can only use the harddrive and power supply from your current toughbook. The battery and caddy won't work.
CF-50, keyboards are the same, has floppy drive AND cd/dvd drive, takes cf-28 batteries ( I haven't had a chance to try out a aftermarket battery in it yet) The early models had pentium 4 CPU, the Mk3 and up models have the Pentium M. I would try to get a Mk3 or later. All of the CF-50 I have are the Mk4 and I will be getting more later on as I find them for a good price. I have 4 caddy's waiting. The CPU's on these can be upgraded but I haven't popped one open to do it yet. Max ram is 1.2 or 1.5 GB depending what is on the motherboard.

CF-50D/E/F/G/H (Mk3) -- ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 32MB and 64MB models
1.4GHz OR 1.6GHz CPU

CF-50L/M (Mk4) -- ATI Mobility Radeon 9600, 64M
1.7GHz CPU

CF-50J/K (Mk5) -- ATI Mobility Radeon 9000, 64MB VRAM
1.5GHz

Even if you don't need the improved graphics a better GPU will help take the strain off of a CPU.

(some of the older models can surprise you, the CF-48 in Mk5 or 6 had a Pentium M and ATI 9000 graphics is you have a old one lying around)
CF-48E/F (Mk5) -- Intel® Pentium® M Processor 1.4GHz, Intel 855PM, Radeon 9000, 768MB Max Ram?(unconfirmed, listed on the website.

CF-48G/H (Mk6) -- Intel® Pentium® M Processor 1.5GHz, Intel 855PM, Radeon 9000, 768MB Max Ram?(unconfirmed, listed on the website.

( I WILL DO SOME TWEAKING ON THE WORDING LATER TO MAKE SURE IT'S IN ORDER)

SUMMARY, NOT MY WORK IF YOU WERE INTERESTED IN THE PIN MODDING

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.a ... le=pin+mod

Pin Modding and Overclocking a Pentium M Guide
By gilo, NotebookReview.com Contributor | 10/5/2006

Pin modding an Intel Pentium-M to overclock performance isn't a new thing, but with current Core 2 Duo chips driving first generation Pentium M Dothan pricing down, you can upgrade your 2-year old Pentium M notebook for only a few dollars.

Step 1: Pretend to know what you are doing

This pin modification ("pin mod") allows you to overclock a Dothan CPU to being 33% faster than its normal speed. This mod works on Pentium M 715, 725, 735, 745, 755 and 765 processors (1.5GHz, 1.6GHz, 1.7GHz, 1.8GHz, 2.0GHz, 2.1GHz respectively when not overclocked). Opening and overclocking a notebook is a risky procedure, especially if you have NO past experience, so it would be a wise choice to do it on a used old notebook -- even better if it's somebody else's, such as a friend's.

When asked by your friend how pin modding works mumble something about grounding the BSEL[0] pin, thus "tricking" the CPU Front Side Bus to run at 133MHz instead of 100MHz, since its multiplier stays the same it will overclock by 33% turning a 1.6Ghz CPU (16 X 100Mhz) into a 2.13Ghz CPU (16 X 133Mhz). If they keep asking more annoying questions to see if you know what you're doing, just tell them it's magic.

Step 2 : What you need

Whether a friend's notebook or yours, Pentium M Dothan pin modding is possible only with "SONOMA" notebooks. That is, any notebook with the Intel 915 chipset and running at 533Mhz (4 X 133MHz). The Dell Inspiron 9300 used in the making of this tutorial is an example of a notebook with the Intel Sonoma chipset. If you don't know what Pentium M processor and chipset your notebook has, check with CPU-Z to find the motherboard clock speed. Chances are that the Sonoma notebook you have on hand is already out of warranty and about to croak any second now -- well not really but it will make you feel better thinking that when you damage it during this process.

In addition, you'll need to get your hands on a Pentium-M Dothan rated at 400Mhz FSB. This mod will not work on 533Mhz Dothan processors since they are already working at 133Mhz. The required CPU must also have 2MB Cache size and can be identified by the 7x5 model number scheme. Recommended picks are the lower end 1.5Ghz and 1.6Ghz (Pentium M 715 or 725) Dothans, those can be easily found used on eBay for 30$-50$.

A new Intel Pentium M 725 1.6GHz Dothan processor that will serve as the processor to be pin modded (view large image)

Below is a table of processors that can be modded and the speed that can potentially be achieved by doing a pin mod:
Core speed Overclocked
Dothan 715 2MB 400FSB 1.5Ghz 2.0Ghz
Dothan 725 2MB 400FSB 1.6Ghz 2.13Ghz
Dothan 735 2MB 400FSB 1.7Ghz 2.26Ghz
Dothan 745 2MB 400FSB 1.8Ghz 2.4Ghz
Dothan 755 2MB 400FSB 2.0Ghz 2.66Ghz

This might be a good time to remark there is no 100% success guarantee, even if you try to overclock a low end CPU, as you go up the speed scale of processors to the 2.0GHz chip the chances of sucessfully pin modding and overclocking by 33% gets slimmer. The 1.7GHz and faster CPUs are most likely to fail with or without an increase to the Vcore, making the machine very hot, unstable or both. Furthermore, you might damage the CPU and/or the notebook by modding. By following this article you are hereby take full responsibility for the consequences. Sign here -- here -- and on the dotted line here.

For the pin modding itself you'll use a very short and thin strand of copper wire, you can get this by cutting a piece of any TV antenna cable -- just make sure it's the neighbors cable and not yours.

You'll also need a thermal paste such as Artic Silver 5, unfortunately you can't scrounge that out of the garbage and will have to buy it for $3 or so.

Step 3: Take out the old CPU

Some notebooks allow instant direct access to the CPU via a plate cover on the bottom. But you will have to dismantle it piece by piece until you get to the heatsink that covers the processor. Once you remove the heatsink, turn the screw to unlock the CPU from the socket. Carefully remove the CPU and put it aside with the rest of the parts in a sturdy box -- that way it will be simple to send them later along with the notebook to the nearest authorized repair center.

Step 4 : Connect the pins

Cut out from the antenna cable a strand of thin copper wire about 0.5cm long -- throw away the rest of the 5 foot cable you cut earlier (what a waste). Don't make this small piece of copper too long as you only want to connect the pins not to shorten the circuit below the socket holes. If you think you'll have a hard time cutting such a tiny wire without dropping it, wait until you try to form a U shape wire out of it.

Take the U-shaped wire you prepared and use it to connect the 15th & 16th holes from the left in the 3rd row of holes. Be persistent trying to do this, you'll manage it eventually on the 4th piece of wire you've cut after dropping the first two on the carpet and accidentally inhaling the 3rd.

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Step 5 : Replace the CPU and apply AS5

Double check the wire is in the right place and then seat the 400Mhz Dothan in the socket, and secure it in place using the Zif-lock. Carefully clean the core surface of any old thermal paste residue and fingerprints using pure isopropyl alcohol, even the thinnest oil layer will reduce the effectiveness of heat transfer from the core to the heat sink resulting in overheating of the CPU.

Apply Arctic Silver 5 on the core according to the Arctic Silver 5 instructions page, some claim a thick layer is better as well as another layer on the heat sink, however Arctic Silver instructions specify otherwise, explaining you should have as little paste as possible between the CPU and heat sink. So put on only a small amount, about half the size of a rice grain, and spread it using a new clean razor blade until you have only a thin layer. Clean excess AS5 residue and bandage your finger you cut with the razor blade (try and make sure no blood gets on the processor).

Using pure isopropyl alcohol to clean the heat sink itself of any old thermal paste residue before you mount it back over the CPU.

Bottom of the Heat sink -- use isopropyl alcohol to clean off old thermal paste residue before placing back over the processor

Step 6 : First boot

After completely reassembling your notebook, press the power button and pray for the thing to work, if it doesn't, curse yourself for tightening all those screws you now have to unscrew again -- next time reassemble the notebook "loosely" for preliminary checkups. Should the notebook actually boot up enter the BIOS and look for the processor info, if you did things right it should say the overclocked speed as the "Current Clock Speed". As you can see in the screenshot, our Pentium M 725 1.6 GHz processor reads as 2.13Ghz -- you're right, I don't believe it worked either.

Step 7 : Temperature check

Continue to load XP, and check if the CPU temperature is within the reasonable range. With the fresh coat of Artic Silver 5 you applied, the new CPU shouldn't be hotter then the old one. You can check and keep a constant watch over the CPU temperature using programs like speed fan, mobile meter or I8kfangui for all the Dell dudes.

If the temperatures continues to rise fast above the normal range IMMEDIATELY power the notebook off, you could fry the CPU and even damage the entire motherboard. If this wild temperature rise does happen you'll have to start all over with fresh application of Arctic Silver 5 layer and make sure the heat sink is properly mounted -- make sure the CPU fan was connected back on properly too.

Step 8 : Stability check

Load the program Prime 95 and start a torture test using the maximum FPU stress option that puts 100% load on the CPU. Check the CPU-Z Core Speed reading to verify that the CPU is now running at its overclocked speed. The torture test will continue until stopped or until it encounters a CPU error. Let it run for several hours to verify the CPU stability while keeping an eye on the temperature, it should increase considerably but still stay within a reasonable range.

Higher speed CPUs are more likely to fail at this stage, even if the notebook successfully booted with the overclocked CPU at a higher clock speed, the CPU will require more voltage for stable operation. While possible to achieve, the added voltage will raise the already high temperature making an overclocked 2.66Ghz notebook hot, noisy & impractical for anything but bragging. Keep a poker face as you trade your fast 1.8 GHz Dothan with someone who has a 1.6GHz Dothan -- what a sucker.

Step 9 : Benchmark ( optional )

Now that everything hopefully works OK, you probably want to tighten the remaining screws and "loose" parts and find out how much faster your notebook is now. The following comparison benchmark result were taken with the Inspiron 9300's original Intel Dothan 730 1.6Ghz 533/2MB processor that was replaced by a Dothan 725 1.6Ghz 400/2MB processor that we just overclocked to 2.13Ghz.

Step 10 : Heat & Undervolting ( optional )

Your upgraded notebook is now scorching fast. Surprisingly, when idling or with minimum activity the overclocked Dothan @ 2.13Ghz temperatures are about the same as with the 1.6Ghz, both sitting at about 34 Celsius. This is probably because the Intel processor Speed Step technology lowers both processors to 789MHz when idling, but given the slighest CPU load the pin modded processor jumps to 2.13GHz and the temperature jumps 10 C -18 C in the blink of an eye, right up to 57 C, while the 1.6 GHz non-modded processor takes longer to warm up and peaks at 55 C.

If you are wary of drastic temperature changes you can undervolt the pin-modded overclocked processor using RM CPU clock utility. After I did a bit of undervolting on the modded Dothan running @ 2.13Ghz, it was idling at 32 C and running the demanding Prime 95 program while keeping temps stable at about 47 C.

Conclusion

Now you can brag to your friends your notebook is 33% faster, tell them Microsoft XP boots in half the time, applications startup in the blink of an eye and that you have no lag in multiplayer games. Only, you and I know such claimes would be a lie.

In reality, when using everyday applications you won't notice much difference in performance. Like most computers, your overall performance is limited by bottlenecks such as a slow hard drive, which cause the CPU to only rarely be utilized at its full speed potential -- even if you are working at 100% load. Real performance gains will be seen only with CPU intensive tasks such as audio & video encoding, rendering, mathematical applications and games where the GPU isn't the limiting factor.
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Re: CF-51 Single Core Cpu Upgrade Q and A

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WOW...Very good job ADOR. This will help everyone on both forums.
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