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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:35 am 
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Im hearing from multiple sources that windows 10 is now a a recommended update and is, or will be, automatically initiating on computers. I for one am not a big fan of 10, with 7 being the last version I like. Any thoughts on this? How stable will 10 be on some of the Toughbooks?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:48 am 
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This is the second time they have done this . The first time they said it was a mistake. ...right. if your installing it on an older laptop be careful because it sometimes does not play nicely. MS answer to that is...buy a new one. They think you should buy a new one every other year. They even said this on the forum. They are so out of touch with the real world.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:57 am 
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I am also not a fan of 10. I don't like that the nuisance reminder software auto installs. I have an older gateway laptop and when 10 first came out I signed up for the free install, waited for my download slot (2 weeks) then when it was ready windows determined that the gateway didn't have the gusto for the install. I found out what update to delete to get rid of the upgrade crap and thought I was done. Now it is back on the gateway and it is very irritating. I don't want 10 on any of my toughbooks because I think it will slow them down. I like the speed I have now.

Also upgraded wifes Dell from 8 to 10 (she started it without telling me or backing up :pat: ) it took about 14 hours, had to force shut down because it stalled and then it doesn't install all programs already installed in 8. UGGH!!

I think I am off topic a little. I don't want 10 forced on MY Toughbooks. I think I have seen some people running it on theirs.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:15 am 
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Forced update.
I don't think the business community will bend over and take this. I can see a class action suit coming to compensate for all of the IT hours to "fix" the mess Win10 creates. I can't imagine how many computers with proprietary software this will break.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:45 am 
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Shawn wrote:
Forced update.
I don't think the business community will bend over and take this. I can see a class action suit coming to compensate for all of the IT hours to "fix" the mess Win10 creates. I can't imagine how many computers with proprietary software this will break.


And I've seen it happen. A car dealership I consult for had a payroll system hosed by the win10 update just this Monday. I haven't booted my Win7 systems in a while here at home, but the first thing I'll do is disable recommended software updates. I'll even be unplugging the ethernet cable before it starts downloading 6 gigs of crap for nothing.

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From the little I've read on this, Win10 only auto-updates if Windows Update settings are "Install updates automatically" and the box is checked for "Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important ones". That configuration is what Microsoft recommends for home/consumer PCs, but corporate and Toughbook units are not configured that way by default. Also corporate IT can push a policy that prevents the update. So this will affect the average home user but not us TB nuts or corporate users. Best to warn your family and friends tho . . . .

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There is a confirmed rumour that the VLK crowd is not having this as an issue...

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Springfield wrote:
From the little I've read on this, Win10 only auto-updates if Windows Update settings are "Install updates automatically" and the box is checked for "Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important ones". That configuration is what Microsoft recommends for home/consumer PCs, but corporate and Toughbook units are not configured that way by default. Also corporate IT can push a policy that prevents the update. So this will affect the average home user but not us TB nuts or corporate users. Best to warn your family and friends tho . . . .


Well the wife's desktop is set to auto and reccomended updates and it has not turned 10 yet. It does do regular reboots for installs weekly. However it is still a w7 POS. When it takes it's final dive I'll just pull the hdd and recover all she wants and set her up with a mint install. After she suffers for a week or so with 10. :booty:

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Azrial wrote:
There is a confirmed rumour that the VLK crowd is not having this as an issue...


Confirmed. I manage VLKs for a customer. W10 was never free for volume license owners, so it's sort of normal.

Springfield wrote:
From the little I've read on this, Win10 only auto-updates if Windows Update settings are "Install updates automatically" and the box is checked for "Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important ones".


Yep. Like I said in my post above yours, it's the first thing I'm disabling whenever I get around to booting W7. Which could be hell of a long time. :D

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500 GB CF-53 Non-touch that has W7 on it now has MX14.4 keeping it from ever running unless I choose it from the Grub Menu. Dual boots can be a problem for some but usually only if W7 boots first.

There are a few files on the W7 I wanted to keep. They are accesible from the MX-14 side.

It took two hours for Linux to shrink the W7 partition. (Gparted) I think. Now I see I have 155 updates to install. New build, so no problem there. No worries about viruses.

MX-14 comes stock with Iceweasel (Firefox). I think I'll keep it for now.....I usually use Chromium.

The only tweak I added is xfce4-popup-whiskermenu. The "surrender flag" launches the menu now.

Smooth transition. FWIW





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